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Comments by Dale Smith, Alameda Point Restoration Advisory Board Community Co-Chair
33:49 The residential standards are for groundwater only, and they
are not for soil. So the soil has high levels of lead, mercury,
cadmium, vanadium, and other toxic metals in the soil that is
not being addressed.
(Full Comment: The talk of residential standards, when I talk
to community members, they seem to get confused because
the residential standards are for groundwater only, and they
are not for soil. So the soil has high levels of lead, mercury,
cadmium, vanadium, and other toxic metals in the soil, and
that is not being addressed as far as we can tell.)
At Alameda Point, cleanup to residential standards means
that the health risk and health hazard from both soil and
groundwater (combined) are health-protective for single-
family residential land use; which is the most stringent land-
use standard. This principle applies to both the CERCLA
and Petroleum Programs. Accordingly, the concentrations of
toxic metals in soil are explicitly considered by the Navy
and the environmental regulatory agencies in deciding
whether soil remediation is needed to allow residential land
use and, if so, the type and extent of that remediation.
34:14 Slide 13 represents the CERCLA sites only. There are
petroleum sites that move in and out of CERCLA. One
month they’ll be in, and the next month they’ll be out. For
example, the plume under Kollmann Circle originally was in
the petroleum site, got put in the CERCLA site.
(Full Comment: The graphs in the document, according to
the EPA representative, represent the CERCLA sites only,
and I don’t know if you changed those or you basically used
those graphs. You know the tall…. Yeah, so those are
CERCLA sites only, and there are petroleum sites that move
in and out of CERCLA. They do a little hula dance. One
month they’ll be in, and the next month they’ll be out. So
there are sites that are still of concern, such as the plume
under Kollmann Circle, which originally was in the
petroleum site, but then because of problems in Bayport, it
got put in the CERCLA site. So just bear that in mind. As I
said, the soil is not being remediated.)
Contamination in soil and groundwater at Alameda Point is
addressed by either the CERCLA or Petroleum Program,
whichever appears to be most appropriate. For example, a
site with petroleum contamination is typically managed
under the Petroleum Program, unless non-petroleum
contamination also is present. Occasionally, management of
a particular site will transfer from one program to another
during the course of investigation and remedial decision
making. For example, a site may move to the CERCLA
Program if contamination by a CERCLA substance is found
at a Petroleum Program site. The goals for protection of
human health and the environment are the same with both
programs.
35:09 According to the presentation, “cleanup” means active This comment primarily applies to cleanup of groundwater
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remediation. However, the cleanup is going on for much
longer than that. For example, the RAB had a presentation
on one site (groundwater at OU-2B), where the cleanup was
going to take 22 to 35 years, and there’ll be severe
restrictions on the use of that site.
(Full Comment: Cleanup as defined in the presentation, as I
read it or I hear it, means the active remediation done by the
military, meaning trucks and things are out there. Scoops are
digging up dirt. Otherwise the cleanup is going on for much
longer than that. We had a presentation on one site two
months ago where the cleanup was going to take 22 to 35
years, and there’ll be severe restrictions on the use of that
site. So bear that in mind.)
contamination. The remediation of many Alameda Point
groundwater contamination sites follows two principal
steps. The first is an initial phase, during which the
contamination, especially the source area, is treated, for
example by injection of chemicals or by heating. The
second phase typically consists of periodic groundwater
sampling to monitor progress of natural processes in further
reducing contamination concentrations. The first phase often
takes three years or less. The second phase lasts until clean-
up goals are reached. The commenter is correct in that the
second phase can last for several decades, as in the example
of Operable Unit 2B (OU-2B).
During the second phase, land-use restrictions may be
applied to protect monitoring wells and to prevent use of the
groundwater. Depending on the type of groundwater
contamination, land-use restrictions may also require that
building designs include vapor barriers, special ventilation,
etc. to safeguard public health. Land-use restrictions during
the second phase typically do not preclude most uses of the
site. Thus, “severe restrictions” on land use typically apply
only to the first few years of cleanup.
35:44 Quite a bit of money is spent on cleanup using innovative
technologies. But the Navy is using experimental
technologies, which eventually don’t work, and cost a lot of
money, so the Navy is able to make presentations to
scientific boards.
(Full Comment: One of the RAB’s concerns has been that
there has been quite a bit of money spent on cleanup using
innovative technologies. But they’re using experimental
CERCLA requires that clean-up decision making evaluate
the extent to which each remedial alterative under
consideration reduces the amount, toxicity, or mobility of
contaminants through treatment. This statutory preference
implies that innovative technologies sometimes will be
selected as the preferred clean-up alternative.
Sometimes it is unclear whether a promising emerging
technology will be effective under conditions found at
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technologies, which eventually don’t work, and cost a lot of
money. So, but they, the Navy then is able to make
presentations to scientific boards saying that they tried this
technology and it did not work.)
Alameda Point. In such cases, a pilot test (a form of
experiment) typically is conducted to evaluate how well the
technology would work. A pilot test of in-situ thermal
treatment to treat groundwater was tried at OU-2C and
found to be very cost-effective. Alternatively, a pilot test of
nano-zerovalent-iron injection was tried at OU-2B and
found not to be effective. In both cases, the Navy and the
environmental regulatory agencies unanimously agreed the
pilot testing (experimenting) was a prudent way to evaluate
the promising technology.
The principal instance where experimentation with
technologies has occurred at Alameda Point is regarding
groundwater in another area of OU-2B. In this case, a
university and an EPA national laboratory approached the
Navy for permission to conduct an experiment on
groundwater contamination. The experiment was primarily
funded externally, and the information obtained by the
project has improved clean-up decision making for OU-2B
groundwater.
36:16 An “active cleanup” site on Slide 13 means a site for which
the regulators have signed off on site characterization and
remedial investigation, and is to move on to Proposed Plans,
RODs, and Work Plans. So a lot of sites in that category
don’t have those in place yet, but they’re put in the active
cleanup column anyway.
(Full Comment: So active cleanup on that slide show means
anything that has moved to the point where the regulators
have signed off on site characterization and remedial
investigation, and now and has moved into a place where
The “Active Cleanup” column in the graph on Slide 13
includes sites which have completed their RODs and design
or implementation of the active remediation is in progress.
Sites that are in the Proposed Plan or draft ROD stages are
categorized on Slide 13 as “Under Investigation”. CERCLA
requires that remedial activities in the field begin within
fifteen months of completing the ROD.
The distinctions the comment focuses on will be explained
more explicitly on future versions of this slide.
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there are Proposed Plans, RODs, and Work Plans. So a lot of
it doesn’t have those in place yet, but they’re put in the
active cleanup column.)
36:46 The presentation (Slide 15) indicated portions of the
Northwest Territories are white (outside of IR Sites). But
most of these areas have recently been found to have radium
contamination in soil. There is no plan for remediation of
this contamination.
(Full Comment: The map showed the Northwest Territories
to be white, but they have recently been found to be covered
with radium to a depth of a half foot to a foot and a half, as I
recall, in most of it. And there has been no plan as to how
that’s going to be remediated, as far as we know.)
The IR Site boundaries on Slide 15 accurately reflect the
BCT’s current understanding of the extent of radium in soil
at Northwest Territories. Within the last few years, the
boundaries of the site in the area the comment references
(IR Site 32) were expanded to account for low-level radium
contamination in soil extending over a greater area than was
originally recognized. The Navy is currently completing an
extensive radiological survey of soil in this area. The
preliminary results from this investigation indicate that the
extent of radium in soil does not extend beyond the current
IR Site boundaries (into the white areas shown on Slide 15).
37:09 Natural attenuation hasn’t occurred for 60 years. Why expect
it to occur in the next five or ten years?
(Full Comment: And one of, George Humphries, who is my
cohort in this battle, likes to point out that natural attenuation
hasn’t occurred for 60 years. Why do you think it’s going to
occur in the next five or ten years?)
Natural attenuation consists of a variety of natural processes
that reduce contaminant concentrations over time, usually
relatively slowly: biochemical degradation, dispersion,
volatilization, etc. These are commonly effective in
reducing contaminant concentrations to remedial goals after
the initial active-cleanup phase.
A fundamental component of the monitored natural
attenuation part of a clean-up alternative is ongoing
groundwater sampling and analysis to verify that
contaminant concentrations drop as expected. If the levels
do not drop, CERCLA requires that the ROD be changed to
ensure clean-up goals are achieved.
More technical response: Two factors support the
expectation that natural attenuation will work well after
active remediation.
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First, underground bacteria and other microbes degrade
many contaminants, often an important component of
natural attenuation. However, initial site conditions may
include contaminant levels that are so high that they are
toxic to the very microorganisms that, with more dilute
concentrations, would readily consume the contamination as
food. Thus, following an initial phase of active cleanup of
the higher concentration zones, natural attenuation can
proceed more effectively.
Second, with initial high contaminant concentrations, the
effect of natural attenuation often is not discernible. This is
because of the inherent variability of sampling and analysis.
A simple example illustrates this point. With an initial
contaminant concentration of 10,000 micrograms per liter
(ug/L) and an inherent sampling variability of plus or minus
ten percent, duplicate sampling and analysis of the same
groundwater could yield analytical results anywhere
between 9,000 ug/L and 11,000 ug/L. Say for discussion
purposes, that natural attenuation reduces the contaminant
concentration by 10 ug/L each year. This rate of natural
attenuation would be difficult to detect in a reasonable
period of time by sampling. On the other hand, after an
initial phase of active remediation that reduces contaminant
levels, to say 300 ug/L, then analysis of duplicate samples
would yield results between 330 ug/L and 270 ug/L (+/-
10%). Now, natural attenuation at a rate of 10 ug/L would
be both meaningful and discernible by sampling and
analysis.
37:25 Planting trees will not be allowed. Gardening and fruit Restrictions on digging are used sparingly at Alameda
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growing will be allowed, but digging a hole in the soil will
not.
(Full Comment: And then to answer, I think, your question
about planting trees: no, you will not be able to plant trees.
You’ll be able to plant…. You’ll be able to have a garden,
and you’ll be able to grow fruit, but you will not be able to
dig a hole in the soil.)
Point: in only three instances.
First, the Marsh Crust Ordinance restricts digging below the
Threshold Depth, unless a permit is obtained first.
Second, soil cleanup at North Housing (IR Site 25) was
conducted in landscaped areas, but not under buildings or
pavement. Accordingly, major site work is restricted
without first obtaining approval from the BCT.
Additionally, digging deeper than four feet below ground
surface at North Housing is prohibited without approval
from the BCT. These restrictions may affect tree planting. In
any case, BCT approval would be granted provided digging
were conducted while following a site management plan
that appropriately manages potential encounters with
contaminated soil.
Third, at Todd Shipyards (IR Site 28), a non-residential
area, digging deeper than two feet below ground surface is
restricted without first obtaining approval from the BCT.